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	<title>Comments on: The 40% Overhead Myth&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Charlie Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1992...GAK!  That was kind of a long time ago.  Things do/have changed a bit since then.  The 10-11% number I've quoted here includes all the stuff you mention above.  And I think your point about individual policies vis.a.vis. group policies, even in non-regulated individual market states, would still hold true.  The group market is the dominant market, and the individual market is a small piece of the total picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1992&#8230;GAK!  That was kind of a long time ago.  Things do/have changed a bit since then.  The 10-11% number I&#8217;ve quoted here includes all the stuff you mention above.  And I think your point about individual policies vis.a.vis. group policies, even in non-regulated individual market states, would still hold true.  The group market is the dominant market, and the individual market is a small piece of the total picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie - In 1992, Ken Thorpe published a paper in Health Affairs titled "Inside The Black Box of Administrative Costs" which is probably the best piece on the subject that I've seen.  In it, he shows that administrative costs can indeed consume up to 40% of the premium dollar in the individual underwritten market.  Between underwriting costs, broker commissions, advertising and marketing costs combined with very low premiums for the very healthy people who can pass the rigorous underwriting screen, you wind up with very high administrative costs as a percentage of a much lower premium than would prevail in a pure community rating state like NJ or a modified community rating state like MA.  This segment, however, accounts for less than 10% of the total private health insurance market nationwide in terms of members and significantly less than 10% of premiums collected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie - In 1992, Ken Thorpe published a paper in Health Affairs titled &#8220;Inside The Black Box of Administrative Costs&#8221; which is probably the best piece on the subject that I&#8217;ve seen.  In it, he shows that administrative costs can indeed consume up to 40% of the premium dollar in the individual underwritten market.  Between underwriting costs, broker commissions, advertising and marketing costs combined with very low premiums for the very healthy people who can pass the rigorous underwriting screen, you wind up with very high administrative costs as a percentage of a much lower premium than would prevail in a pure community rating state like NJ or a modified community rating state like MA.  This segment, however, accounts for less than 10% of the total private health insurance market nationwide in terms of members and significantly less than 10% of premiums collected.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grady - most plans have reduced their administrative allocation as a percent of premium over the past ten years or so - from about 15% of premium down to the numbers mentioned above.  And your characterization of how we've changed is interesting.  You think we do less in the utilization space and have modernized/digitized some transactions.  True.  But overall, I think we've gotten more complicated - gone from just being a fully insured HMO with a defined set of benefits and services, to being a multi-product health plan with hundreds of different product offerings and funding arrangements to meet more specific market/employer/employee needs and expectations.

In addition, half of our business is now self-insured - where we administer tailored plans designed in many cases by the employer.

And our operating margins in MA have remained pretty constant - plus or minus 1-2 percent - as our medical expense trend has climbed along with our premium trend.

Finally, you sort of answered your last question (what about more cost control?) with your earlier observation about network expansion.  Simply put, the broader and more accessible the provider network, the higher the price.  People chose broader networks over lower prices in droves over the course of the past ten years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grady - most plans have reduced their administrative allocation as a percent of premium over the past ten years or so - from about 15% of premium down to the numbers mentioned above.  And your characterization of how we&#8217;ve changed is interesting.  You think we do less in the utilization space and have modernized/digitized some transactions.  True.  But overall, I think we&#8217;ve gotten more complicated - gone from just being a fully insured HMO with a defined set of benefits and services, to being a multi-product health plan with hundreds of different product offerings and funding arrangements to meet more specific market/employer/employee needs and expectations.</p>
<p>In addition, half of our business is now self-insured - where we administer tailored plans designed in many cases by the employer.</p>
<p>And our operating margins in MA have remained pretty constant - plus or minus 1-2 percent - as our medical expense trend has climbed along with our premium trend.</p>
<p>Finally, you sort of answered your last question (what about more cost control?) with your earlier observation about network expansion.  Simply put, the broader and more accessible the provider network, the higher the price.  People chose broader networks over lower prices in droves over the course of the past ten years.</p>
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		<title>By: Grady Clouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grady Clouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better question may be - what is the return on administrative cost growth?  

If admin costs are growing with medical trend at 2+ times the rate of inflation (keeping MLR constant), where is the extra money going?  Most insurers have opened their networks, dispensed with pre-authorization, increased electronic claims volumes, and (in some cases) sent call centers offshore - all of which should reduce admin cost per unit of service, not increase it.

For-profit insurers have ridden trend to produce ~15% earnings growth year over year.  What have the non-profits done with these funds?  HPHC is to be lauded for its quality achievements, but why haven't these increased admin dollars yielded more cost control, for example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A better question may be - what is the return on administrative cost growth?  </p>
<p>If admin costs are growing with medical trend at 2+ times the rate of inflation (keeping MLR constant), where is the extra money going?  Most insurers have opened their networks, dispensed with pre-authorization, increased electronic claims volumes, and (in some cases) sent call centers offshore - all of which should reduce admin cost per unit of service, not increase it.</p>
<p>For-profit insurers have ridden trend to produce ~15% earnings growth year over year.  What have the non-profits done with these funds?  HPHC is to be lauded for its quality achievements, but why haven&#8217;t these increased admin dollars yielded more cost control, for example?</p>
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