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	<title>Comments on: Comparative Effectiveness Research</title>
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		<title>By: Ken Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Barry, "The challenges, I think, relate to both funding (how much is enough and who pays) and maintaining the political independence of the agency or group charged with performing the research and reaching the conclusions."

But I ask, what about research that leads to proven treatments?  Even when the treatments are validated and proven, the payment of such services can often fall upon the patient due to miscommunication of what is covered between the the Service Provider and the Health Care provider.

Why must the responibility of facilitating clear communication between these groups fall upon the patient.  They are the only ones that end up suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Barry, &#8220;The challenges, I think, relate to both funding (how much is enough and who pays) and maintaining the political independence of the agency or group charged with performing the research and reaching the conclusions.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I ask, what about research that leads to proven treatments?  Even when the treatments are validated and proven, the payment of such services can often fall upon the patient due to miscommunication of what is covered between the the Service Provider and the Health Care provider.</p>
<p>Why must the responibility of facilitating clear communication between these groups fall upon the patient.  They are the only ones that end up suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael D. Miller, MD</title>
		<link>http://www.letstalkhealthcare.org/medicare/comparative-effectiveness-research/#comment-5364</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael D. Miller, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cost Effectiveness Research and Evidence Based Medicine are terms which sound great, and Steve does good work in this area, but payers have been known to apply these terms to rationing practices designed solely to reduce their spending.  I have written about this on my blog (healthpolcom.com/blog) and encountered it frequently when researching the Veterans' health system's practices.  The other challenge in CER research is how it asks the question about value (or cost-effectiveness) to whom?  The same data can provide very different answers when applied to the payer, the employer, the patient or society overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cost Effectiveness Research and Evidence Based Medicine are terms which sound great, and Steve does good work in this area, but payers have been known to apply these terms to rationing practices designed solely to reduce their spending.  I have written about this on my blog (healthpolcom.com/blog) and encountered it frequently when researching the Veterans&#8217; health system&#8217;s practices.  The other challenge in CER research is how it asks the question about value (or cost-effectiveness) to whom?  The same data can provide very different answers when applied to the payer, the employer, the patient or society overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it would be very helpful if we had good, objective comparative effectiveness research that analyzed the cost-effectiveness of both existing and new treatments including drugs and devices.  The challenges, I think, relate to both funding (how much is enough and who pays) and maintaining the political independence of the agency or group charged with performing the research and reaching the conclusions.

Some have suggested modeling a comparative effectiveness research agency after the Federal Reserve Board which sounds good in theory.  However, as Alan Greenspan points out in his recent book “The Age of Turbulence,” the Fed has about 2,000 employees, a budget of $300 million per year and it’s own funding source from interest on government securities it owns and lending to banks as well as profits from buying and selling government securities.  There will always be heavy pushback from providers who may lose business when their treatments are either not covered by payers or deemed to be less cost-effective than alternatives.

I also think that it might be helpful if insurers were not quite as rigidly tied to Medicare in setting fee schedules.  If, for example, insurers think that Medicare pays too little for primary care, which could help to keep people healthy, or palliative care, which could reduce healthcare utilization at the end of life, they should be willing to pay considerably more than Medicare if necessary to insure adequate availability of these services which could save money overall for both the system generally and the insurers specifically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it would be very helpful if we had good, objective comparative effectiveness research that analyzed the cost-effectiveness of both existing and new treatments including drugs and devices.  The challenges, I think, relate to both funding (how much is enough and who pays) and maintaining the political independence of the agency or group charged with performing the research and reaching the conclusions.</p>
<p>Some have suggested modeling a comparative effectiveness research agency after the Federal Reserve Board which sounds good in theory.  However, as Alan Greenspan points out in his recent book “The Age of Turbulence,” the Fed has about 2,000 employees, a budget of $300 million per year and it’s own funding source from interest on government securities it owns and lending to banks as well as profits from buying and selling government securities.  There will always be heavy pushback from providers who may lose business when their treatments are either not covered by payers or deemed to be less cost-effective than alternatives.</p>
<p>I also think that it might be helpful if insurers were not quite as rigidly tied to Medicare in setting fee schedules.  If, for example, insurers think that Medicare pays too little for primary care, which could help to keep people healthy, or palliative care, which could reduce healthcare utilization at the end of life, they should be willing to pay considerably more than Medicare if necessary to insure adequate availability of these services which could save money overall for both the system generally and the insurers specifically.</p>
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