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		<title>By: Charlie Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks - great comments/insights from all of you.  But getting off the dime and on the road to something that's truly different is a long, hard slog.  There's so much inertia in this sector, and nowhere near enough outside pressure being brought to bear on the various players to get out of their comfort zones.  For the time being, I think the best we can hope for is incremental reform over a long period of time - because many participants, including consumers, employers, and public officials, aren't sure about what kind or how much change they want.

Let's face it, providersw and plans will respond to others on this one.  For example, Barry points out that plans stepped back from aggressively managing care and limiting their provider networks.  We didn't do that because we thought it was a good idea.  We did it because employers, government and consumers - our customers and our overseers - told us to.  Until they can stomach something other than very modest changes, we will be somewhat limited in our ability - at least on the plan side - to deliver significant reforms.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks - great comments/insights from all of you.  But getting off the dime and on the road to something that&#8217;s truly different is a long, hard slog.  There&#8217;s so much inertia in this sector, and nowhere near enough outside pressure being brought to bear on the various players to get out of their comfort zones.  For the time being, I think the best we can hope for is incremental reform over a long period of time - because many participants, including consumers, employers, and public officials, aren&#8217;t sure about what kind or how much change they want.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, providersw and plans will respond to others on this one.  For example, Barry points out that plans stepped back from aggressively managing care and limiting their provider networks.  We didn&#8217;t do that because we thought it was a good idea.  We did it because employers, government and consumers - our customers and our overseers - told us to.  Until they can stomach something other than very modest changes, we will be somewhat limited in our ability - at least on the plan side - to deliver significant reforms.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: sue houck</title>
		<link>http://www.letstalkhealthcare.org/uncategorized/finding-sustainable-funding-for-health-care-coverage/#comment-5658</link>
		<dc:creator>sue houck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie, experience as a provider, manager, student of innovation, change facilitator for hundreds of physicians, author of a comprehensive book on system redesign, consultant to numerous national improvement initiatives, survivor of care for a life-threatening illness, and a comedy improv class has taught me that this exquisitely, complex overbuilt system desperately needs radical simplicity. 

I think the reason costs are out of control are three fold: 

-a totally outmoded, grossly inefficient delivery system designed 100+ years ago to rely on physician memory, compliant patients, office visits and hospital care

-we can't decide as a society whether healthcare is a right or privilege and who should pay, so the system has devolved to the chaos of diverse self interests. Payers and providers long ago spun into their own internally-focused, costly orbits of turf guarding and quarterly profits 

-a dysfunctional market where the patient isn’t viewed as a paying customer, resulting in perverse financial incentives and rushed interactions vs. healing relationships. 

Why not draw a line in the sand that asks for commitments from payers, providers, and employers to establish common ground and results that are SIMPLE, complete, and easy to understand. A common purpose that re-focuses us on why we're here in the first place. An example of such common ground might be: Care that heals, enables and delights at the lowest possible cost. Every time.

I can attest from vast experience that of the hundreds of thousands of healthcare encounters that happen every day, those that heal (not just medicate), enable and delight at the lowest possible cost are rare indeed. A commitment to common ground among payers, providers and employers that patients also understand, could begin to establish a common national purpose and mobilize far more innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, experience as a provider, manager, student of innovation, change facilitator for hundreds of physicians, author of a comprehensive book on system redesign, consultant to numerous national improvement initiatives, survivor of care for a life-threatening illness, and a comedy improv class has taught me that this exquisitely, complex overbuilt system desperately needs radical simplicity. </p>
<p>I think the reason costs are out of control are three fold: </p>
<p>-a totally outmoded, grossly inefficient delivery system designed 100+ years ago to rely on physician memory, compliant patients, office visits and hospital care</p>
<p>-we can&#8217;t decide as a society whether healthcare is a right or privilege and who should pay, so the system has devolved to the chaos of diverse self interests. Payers and providers long ago spun into their own internally-focused, costly orbits of turf guarding and quarterly profits </p>
<p>-a dysfunctional market where the patient isn’t viewed as a paying customer, resulting in perverse financial incentives and rushed interactions vs. healing relationships. </p>
<p>Why not draw a line in the sand that asks for commitments from payers, providers, and employers to establish common ground and results that are SIMPLE, complete, and easy to understand. A common purpose that re-focuses us on why we&#8217;re here in the first place. An example of such common ground might be: Care that heals, enables and delights at the lowest possible cost. Every time.</p>
<p>I can attest from vast experience that of the hundreds of thousands of healthcare encounters that happen every day, those that heal (not just medicate), enable and delight at the lowest possible cost are rare indeed. A commitment to common ground among payers, providers and employers that patients also understand, could begin to establish a common national purpose and mobilize far more innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: sean grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie - The fact that the state is now taxing the local insurers reserves for $33 million and hospitals for another $28 million, there is just no way those costs won't be passed on to working people that pay for their Tufts, HPHC or BCBS insurance. Aetna just released their earnings and their medical costs increased 19%. If medical costs continue to rise and then the state adds on more increases as a result of these taxes on insurers and hospitals it could result in premiums at levels that are unaffordable to everyone. The irony of premiums becoming unaffordable to working people as a result of costs added by the state to cover people that get their insurance for free is just mind boggling. This is unsustainable and is not healthcare "reform" in any sense of the word. Add in a slowing economy that will cause more people that currently pay for their healthcare to enter into the pool that get their health insurance for free and you have forces at work that will tear this whole thing apart. Again, health insurance for all is a great idea but this plan was not well thought out and does not address the cost side of the equation which will end up killing this whole thing in the near future. Frankly, if the feds kill this mess by not authorizing their piece of the funding we might all be better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie - The fact that the state is now taxing the local insurers reserves for $33 million and hospitals for another $28 million, there is just no way those costs won&#8217;t be passed on to working people that pay for their Tufts, HPHC or BCBS insurance. Aetna just released their earnings and their medical costs increased 19%. If medical costs continue to rise and then the state adds on more increases as a result of these taxes on insurers and hospitals it could result in premiums at levels that are unaffordable to everyone. The irony of premiums becoming unaffordable to working people as a result of costs added by the state to cover people that get their insurance for free is just mind boggling. This is unsustainable and is not healthcare &#8220;reform&#8221; in any sense of the word. Add in a slowing economy that will cause more people that currently pay for their healthcare to enter into the pool that get their health insurance for free and you have forces at work that will tear this whole thing apart. Again, health insurance for all is a great idea but this plan was not well thought out and does not address the cost side of the equation which will end up killing this whole thing in the near future. Frankly, if the feds kill this mess by not authorizing their piece of the funding we might all be better off.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Sabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Charlie -

Your emphasis on the centrality of controlling costs is spot on. The one point I would disagree with is calling cost containment an economic issue, in contrast to expanding coverage, which is typically seen as a moral issue. The degree to which ever-expanding health care costs eat away at wages for employees and other social goods like education is at least as much of a moral issue as expanding coverage. Paradoxically, letting health care consume so much of our national wealth actually reduces overall health and well being, by starving other sectors that contribute as much to population health as health care does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charlie -</p>
<p>Your emphasis on the centrality of controlling costs is spot on. The one point I would disagree with is calling cost containment an economic issue, in contrast to expanding coverage, which is typically seen as a moral issue. The degree to which ever-expanding health care costs eat away at wages for employees and other social goods like education is at least as much of a moral issue as expanding coverage. Paradoxically, letting health care consume so much of our national wealth actually reduces overall health and well being, by starving other sectors that contribute as much to population health as health care does.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitation and risk adjustment payments are very sound concepts in theory.  The problem with capitation, however, is that doctors and hospitals have little or no confidence in their ability to project the healthcare costs of the patients they are responsible for which means they cannot determine what the capitation payment per patient needs to be to produce a viable and sustainable business model.  As for risk adjustment, I don’t think the science of risk scoring at the individual level is anywhere near as advanced as it is for, say, credit scoring.  Moreover, for those who require very expensive treatment every year, taxpayers would probably have to offer reinsurance for claims above some maximum level either per individual or in aggregate for the insured population.

As for more general impediments to healthcare reform that focus on taking cost out of the system, I think the diagnosis is straightforward.  Namely, everyone wants to solve the problem at someone else’s expense.  Nobody wants to give up anything themselves.  Consider the following:

1.  Consumers resist eliminating or sharply curtailing the favorable tax treatment currently afforded employer provided health insurance.  They are also reluctant to accept sensible limits on end of life care.

2.  Doctors resist price and quality transparency, P4P, and working with hospitals to offer bundled payments for an entire episode of care connected with expensive surgical procedures.

3.  Hospitals resist price and quality transparency and P4P as well.  They also are reluctant to practice less aggressively, especially at the end of life, because doing so would reduce their revenue.  Both hospitals and doctors are reluctant to pay for electronic records because they think the benefits will mostly accrue to payers and patients.

4.  Lawyers don’t want to give up the current jury based medical malpractice system in favor of health courts, arbitration or some other sensible alternative that would remove juries from medical dispute resolution.

5.  Insurers often require confidentiality agreements that preclude doctors and hospitals from disclosing how much they are actually paid for various procedures.  Insurers have also backed away from serious attempts to manage care as opposed to just manage reimbursement and focus on risk selection.

6.  Drug and device manufacturers resist comparative effectiveness research because it would probably reduce demand for many of their newer, more expensive products that are little or no better than established treatments.

When every interest group steps forward with serious proposals that would cost it money or power in the short term in exchange for a better and more sustainable healthcare system in the long term, we might finally start to make some progress.  We all have to give up something and the sooner we accept that, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitation and risk adjustment payments are very sound concepts in theory.  The problem with capitation, however, is that doctors and hospitals have little or no confidence in their ability to project the healthcare costs of the patients they are responsible for which means they cannot determine what the capitation payment per patient needs to be to produce a viable and sustainable business model.  As for risk adjustment, I don’t think the science of risk scoring at the individual level is anywhere near as advanced as it is for, say, credit scoring.  Moreover, for those who require very expensive treatment every year, taxpayers would probably have to offer reinsurance for claims above some maximum level either per individual or in aggregate for the insured population.</p>
<p>As for more general impediments to healthcare reform that focus on taking cost out of the system, I think the diagnosis is straightforward.  Namely, everyone wants to solve the problem at someone else’s expense.  Nobody wants to give up anything themselves.  Consider the following:</p>
<p>1.  Consumers resist eliminating or sharply curtailing the favorable tax treatment currently afforded employer provided health insurance.  They are also reluctant to accept sensible limits on end of life care.</p>
<p>2.  Doctors resist price and quality transparency, P4P, and working with hospitals to offer bundled payments for an entire episode of care connected with expensive surgical procedures.</p>
<p>3.  Hospitals resist price and quality transparency and P4P as well.  They also are reluctant to practice less aggressively, especially at the end of life, because doing so would reduce their revenue.  Both hospitals and doctors are reluctant to pay for electronic records because they think the benefits will mostly accrue to payers and patients.</p>
<p>4.  Lawyers don’t want to give up the current jury based medical malpractice system in favor of health courts, arbitration or some other sensible alternative that would remove juries from medical dispute resolution.</p>
<p>5.  Insurers often require confidentiality agreements that preclude doctors and hospitals from disclosing how much they are actually paid for various procedures.  Insurers have also backed away from serious attempts to manage care as opposed to just manage reimbursement and focus on risk selection.</p>
<p>6.  Drug and device manufacturers resist comparative effectiveness research because it would probably reduce demand for many of their newer, more expensive products that are little or no better than established treatments.</p>
<p>When every interest group steps forward with serious proposals that would cost it money or power in the short term in exchange for a better and more sustainable healthcare system in the long term, we might finally start to make some progress.  We all have to give up something and the sooner we accept that, the better.</p>
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